Malix
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Post by Malix on Jun 21, 2009 23:59:57 GMT -5
I have some suggestions! Please, debate the merits and demerits of each as you see fit. - Cresty Awards
Or something like that. People nominate their fellows for awards in various categories, for IC and OOC accomplishments. I know the board isn't that old but I dont think a bi-annual or tri-annual award session is out of the question. Everyone likes to have bragging rights, and this is a great form of peer review and mutual support.
- Thread of the Week
Gets people reading other peoples' work and storylines. A Hall of Fame for Threads of the Week would be an awesome archive of the site's finest writing. A little prize might not be out of the question either.
- Thread Turn-in for EXP
Everyone loves gaining EXP. It's the crack that drives statted roleplay. Seems to me like a lot of work goes into non-combat threads and should be rewarded.
- Monthly Newsletter
I seem to remember that we had something similar here in the form of Morning Announcements earlier on. #259 had a monthly newsletter. Very interesting, very useful in letting people know what's been going on, but on the downside it's very labor-intensive for whoever would be making them.
- Bring Karma Back
Again, I like peer feedback. Karma isn't a great system for it but it's what we got here on Proboards. Also...more of a comment than a suggestion, but I can't help but feel that the "Hey, Admin!" board is a bit redundant considering there is already this board for discussing site ops. Anyways, all food for thought, enjoy!
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Post by narakunohana on Jun 22, 2009 3:30:57 GMT -5
Oooh, interesting stuff. Ok, here's my two cents. - Cresty Awards - Yes, yes. We are going to have this sooner or later. Maybe when the board is around 6 months old. For one - it's hard to nominate people when you've only RPed with their character for just a minute amount of time. We all love bragging rights, so yes - you'll have them. You may expect us to start opening them around October. :)
- Thread of the week - That's actually an interesting idea. We could approach this two ways: either the mods debate on pwnful threads every week (which could be a little time-demanding but also convenient in a way, gah) and do our deliberations or do member nominations wherein the mods will be the final judges of threads nominated. I don't see this as a thread of the week thing but a monthly thing, for one - it's a little taxing. But if we have the mental resources and the time for a weekly thing, why the heck not. :)
- Thread turn-in for EXP - Aye, that would be a good idea - although before that happens there should/could be some sort of criteria that basically prevents thread-whoring as exp rewards for non-fight threads could encourage the lessening of post-quality for the sake of quantity... but that's just me being hypercritical. It's a great idea to allow more opportunity for growth for those uninterested in fights.
- Monthly newsletter - Yes, there was a monthly newsletter. It was supposed to be some dealio thing with Damien and Gwyn, and I'm not sure on how to answer on this. I'll leave this for CAW to answer to. :P
- Bring Karma back - Peer feedback? Like "OMG I LOVE RPING WITH THIS PERSON" so you give him/her a + and a - if you go all "Ehhh... he godmodded on meeee DX"
Could be good, but susceptible to abuse. :)
These are all good suggestions, Malix. I'll have them noted and addressed on the next admin-mod meeting and we'll keep you updated. :P
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"Z.E.B."
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Post by "Z.E.B." on Jun 22, 2009 3:32:25 GMT -5
Member Opinion
Cresty Awards: An interesting name... If it is semi-annual, we'll have to wait another 3 months. If its tri-annual, we'll have to wait a month. Either way, we'll have to wait, and there's pros/cons either way, but as a personal vote, I'm opting for a semi-annual as it was kinda done over on 259. 3 more months, though...
Thread Of The Week: Not a bad idea... but very intensive. Possibly, throw it in with the Cresty Awards idea, and/or make it "Thread Of The Month." Also, to avoid too much bias or whatever... you cannot vote for yourself. This can or can't apply to the above Cresty-Ideas, just to help stop people thinking about themselves so much.
Thread Turn-In For EXP: This was tried on 259. And... it requires one person to spend a lot of time doing a lot---and I mean a LOT of reading. That, and/or a few people. In the end, Leon did take it down, as he believed that EXP should only be earned via fighting. There's the risk of also getting post-whores about here, and this would only further increase the gap between slow posters and fast posters. Risky, I'm not in favor of it, and therein vote nay, but there are positives to this as well that I cannot deny.
Monthly Newsletter: Poor staff! XD
Again, another mod-intensive thing, forcing us all to become more and more reliant on the ever-busy staff. On 259, I recall it not being so mandatory, and just really came whenever a mod had something to announce IC-wise. I don't deny that this was a really, really cool aspect for 259, but it kinda died down since then. Rather, instead of making it all that big of a deal (unless the mods don't mind doing this...), I'd say to only do this if something major occured IC-wise, with an IC mass-PM, or if the staff have something major IC-wise with a plot/quest going on. I have no vote at this time.
Karma: ...Eh... I have too many bad memories of that, with assholes or even people not meaning to be making a few people's experiance, truly, truly horrible.
Lotto: ...Throwing that in there as well, along with the cresty awards or summat. Probably also a semi-annual thing or summat.
---I actually forgot about this post, as I proceeded to work on m'post in the "Arpha" thread. I'm posting it as is, to avoid bias.
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January
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Post by January on Jun 22, 2009 11:52:57 GMT -5
Thanks A LOT for looking through and throwing in your proverbial two cents! - As for Thread of the Week/Bi-week/Month/Whatever, I just had the idea that if we combined this with the Thread turn-in for EXP idea we'd have a nice neat list of threads turned in throughout the week/bi-week/month/whatever from which one could be selected either by staff or by poll or secret ballot by members.
- Another thing on Thread Turn-in for EXP. Yes, this has huge potential for being abused by "post-whores" and as a slow-poster myself, I would be uncomfortable with such a system without some effective restraints in place, such as a limited number per week, and some quality control requirements as well. Like Marianne says, its potential for helping non-combatants grow would be central to whether this was implemented. Not that they technically need the stats if they don't do fights...it's a matter of prestige I guess.
- As for Karma...Bill has a good point about how it is a way for people to be assholes and ruin each others' day. It's a matter of how it is treated in the community. If we work to generate an attitude that a reduction in Karma is not something to be butthurt over, then it might be ok. Still, might not be worth the trouble.
- Lotto...FUN! I like it, good idea.
- DISCLAIMER: I apologize PROFUSELY if I gave the impression that I want to heap more work on the staff. You guys are doing a great job and we all appreciate it. If an idea has merit but it's just too much work, more people could be hired, but we don't want to be top-heavy with the staff-to-member ratio either, I'd wager.
EDIT: PS - It's me, I play Malix too...I'm pretty sure you knew, but just in case.
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Post by narakunohana on Jun 22, 2009 12:11:18 GMT -5
Dude, it's not a problem at all. Those are quite doable, considering the amount of helpers we currently have. I'm quite happy you're giving us your ideas the way you do. XD Thanks. :3 -gives a cookie- -goes to type up mod report because SHE CAN'T FACKING SLEEP- XD
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THE Justin
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Post by THE Justin on Jun 22, 2009 12:37:18 GMT -5
Can I say that the Hey, Admin board is frivolous? That's what this exact forum is for D:
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Post by narakunohana on Jun 22, 2009 12:51:03 GMT -5
Yeah, that was stated previously. Give me a day or so to clear things up with Greg (since he was the one who made that board) and we'll see, kay J?
:3
-offers cookeh-
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Post by zer0 on Jun 22, 2009 19:58:28 GMT -5
This is all my own personal opinion and does not reflect the ideas of any other entity but Mr. Albert CK Chan.- Cresty Awards
I liked how this was done in 259 with strictly quantifiable numbers like when Mikey does his quest summaries. "RPer posted a total of 5868 characters (or words or whatnot) in this quest"
It's not really bragging it's just... cool stats that we can all laugh about.
However in terms of awards for quality things like "Most important character in a quest... or within a semi-annual basis I'm not sure if that should be a staff vote or a member vote (without being able to vote for self... one per person). I think it would be great if it was a board-wide vote... I do not think there should be rewards associated with it and discussion on who's the 'best' I personally wouldn't encourage... but rather praise of good RPers is what I'm aiming for with the board-wide vote.
Role-models if you may.
- Thread of the Week
Like above... might as well be lumped into the awards... threads can get awards too! Role-model threads!
- Thread Turn-in for EXP
Well... having a lot of INT, CHA, and WIS would be helpful in non-fight threads for a character who develops himself or herself through training and trials of his or her mind... interacting with others and what not. I think it is realistic for one to get better at talking and persuading people if they do it more often.
The idea is good. I don't have a practical plan to suggest for carrying out the notion.
- Monthly Newsletter
Yeah this was the Weekly Whammy a while back. I'm supporting Mikey's idea of using the mass PM in an IC way only during significant IC story situations (ie. when Mr. Purple announced his coming to the school... the new regulations in place). Used for school wide events in short.
However, much like any other good school reporting system (school newspaper/media), News reports of the happenings of 42 can be broadcasted through Mass PM when 'Articles' are submitted by IC reporters (any student who IC would write about what happened in school and would like to report to the rest of the school, proper IC motivation for a character to do so would be required) ... or we can make a few characters who act as news reporters of the school who would submit news articles for weekly/monthly/periodical mass PM "PA" announcements.
This encourages members to gather PM announcement info rather than putting the entire burden on the Moderating team. (Mods are of course welcome to work on this cause as well)
Might be confusing... ask me specific questions if needed.
- Bring Karma Back
No comment as of yet.
All things open for discussion.
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Post by Keeper Of Secrets on Jun 22, 2009 20:17:59 GMT -5
I like deez suggestions. You can has majik cookiez!
Seriously though, I'm gonna talk it over with the Leadership Team and see if we can't figure out a way to implement some of these. Credit will be given to you though. Very nice suggestions. Thanks for the ideas! <3
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Malix
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Post by Malix on Jun 22, 2009 22:35:09 GMT -5
@albert Yes, the awards thing would definitely be best if it were a process where each member makes nominations for various categories. I know other members of the staff have experience running such events and making up interesting categories for voting in, so I'm sure it will turn out great whenever it happens.
EDIT: For the record, let's note that characters and their writers are not the same entity, and there may be some awards that apply to one or the other.
And you have an interesting observation about how it would make sense to gain in mental stats for non-fighting threads...the idea had crossed my mind, but I think we're getting ahead of ourselves by thinking that far into it just yet.
@ Keeper of Secrets Thanks, glad you likes dem *gobbles majik cookiez* OH THE RUSH
As for credit, don't worry about it; if anything at all is taken away from this that improves the 42 experience for all its members, then thats what matters.
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Post by Adrian on Jun 23, 2009 1:44:12 GMT -5
Might I add that I really like the way Albert expanded on the "Thread turn-in" idea.
I think we could make it that, like, a certain amount of times in a certain period of time (I wouldn't say any more than once or twice a month) you could turn in a thread, with the acceptance of all involved, as a chance to get those who participated experience; HOWEVER, the staff not only decides how much, but where it goes.
Like Alby said, if they were being particularly persuasive, they could get a charisma boost, if they were being clever, and intelligence boost, and so on and so forth.
An issue I see propping up however, is people who's characters were meant to be dumb or oblivious or socially awkward could try turning in these types of posts for exp.
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Post by zer0 on Jun 23, 2009 3:14:40 GMT -5
Well so the reviewers (Staff?) will be able to designate where the exp goes into... ooh I like that ^^.
So like a shy character who starts to talk with other people and make friends might slowly up the CHA rating for example.
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